(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2016 US Open Masters round 5 board 1 - Bao Yun 7d (w) vs Andy Liu 1p (b)]PW[Bao Yun]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2016-08-02]RO[round 5 board 1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Andrew Jackson]C[backpack1 [3d\]: bao yun is participating in the masters?
USGO1 [-\]: Sure is!
USGO1 [-\]: the players are seated and we'll begin any minute
USGO1 [-\]: i'm Andrew Jackson, your scribe this morning
]RE[W+3.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]C[backpack1 [3d\]: is he playing blindfolded? ;) 
USGO1 [-\]: eyes open today!
USGO1 [-\]: I hear Eric got his revenge yesterday, didn't see the game yet
USGO1 [-\]: Bao Yun gets up as it seems like Move 5 is going to get some thought
USGO1 [-\]: Andy is still undefeated this tournament, so is Bao Yun
USGO1 [-\]: check the crosstabs and previous records on usgo.org!
USGO1 [-\]: Bao Yun returns with a coffee and a pop
USGO1 [-\]: (livestream of the players is available right now on youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live
USGO1 [-\]: and twitch.tv/usgoweb)
nuk: what is a 'pop'?
qandq [3k?\]: pop = soda
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary w/ Hajin Lee 3p will begin between 30-45 minutes from now
nuk: soda at this hour?
qandq [3k?\]: He just let out a gigantic yawn, I think he needs all the caffeine he can get
nuk: :-)
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;B[cn]
;W[dk]C[nuk: Thanks for the interesting commentary, qandq. Are you on site in person?
xhu98 [4d?\]: Actually Hajin is 4p now :)
qandq [3k?\]: Just watching the live stream
msullivan [13k\]: Eric Revenged like a Raven ?
xhu98 [4d?\]: We'll be bringing the commentary soon!
USGO1 [-\]: (video of the players is available live on YouTube & twitch!  youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live and twitch.tv/usgoweb
cekalo [1k\]: what city is this tournament?
qandq [3k?\]: Boston
Rodtank [2d\]: why do american "crosstab" results have players with some id/seed number rather than sorted position in the list like european results
Rodtank [2d\]: it makes finding the opponent tedious
Vash3G [-\]: We're working on it
USGO1 [-\]: We have some exciting improvements planned for the crosstab viewer coming this year
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;B[fp]C[USGO1 [-\]: if you'd like to volunteer to help, there's always github.com/usgo
Rodtank [2d\]: e.g. andy in round 1 beat 20, but who is 20?
Rodtank [2d\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/176
Rodtank [2d\]: compare to egc: http://egc2016.ru/en/congress/events/main
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;W[dn]
;B[cq]
;W[dq]
;B[dm]
;W[do]
;B[em]C[Rodtank [2d\]: including game records is nice though =)
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;W[cm]
;B[cl]
;W[bm]
;B[ck]
;W[bn]
;B[dj]C[gooooo [-\]: what is crosstab?
Rodtank [2d\]: what aga calls their results tables
Herod [-\]: short for crosstable
nuk: I am wodering if the tables were created in Excel?
Rodtank [2d\]: and a cross table usually means what is sometimes called a pivot table, which shows more than 2 dimensions of data in 2 dimensions by grouping the data, but the aga's crosstabs are just regular 2d tables
Ohno [-\]: Andy is so nervous compared to Bao
Ohno [-\]: in the stream
USGO1 [-\]: oh really?
USGO1 [-\]: he doesn't seem nervous to me here
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;W[po]C[qandq [3k?\]: He's fidgety
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;B[qm]
;W[qq]
;B[mq]C[Rodtank [2d\]: i saw a recent pro game play b6 at b7, downside being b8 sente but plus is less black aji in corner
Hanarou [1k\]: o
nuk: Really? Andy who I met few times in person, I thought, is a very calm person.
Hanarou [1k\]: *O*
Ohno [-\]: well he is moving a lot with his hands and eyes, but maybe it is just some moments
qandq [3k?\]: I went to his game review session on Sunday, very pleasant guy and good teacher
levye [3k\]: ah that walk away
nuk: He always reminds me of the young late master "Go Seigen"
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;W[qp]C[backpack1 [3d\]: oh :O
gogonuts [3d\]: special move
backpack1 [3d\]: never seen this before
USGO1 [-\]: that's a new one for me
Hanarou [1k\]: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: it is not new 
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: just a different order
backpack1 [3d\]: if w r2 its just a change of the order
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: if black plays R2 its same
backpack1 [3d\]: b*
Lugia [9d\]: so if b doesn't r 2 white loses in the exchange?
gogonuts [3d\]: how about p2?
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: for black ?
gogonuts [3d\]: y
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;B[or]C[USGO1 [-\]: how about it ;)
gogonuts [3d\]: lol
scrwbll19 [4k\]: i do believe this is a more modern variation of this joseki. i read somewhere that playing r2 first was considered over-concentrated if one favors speed
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;W[no]C[gogonuts [3d\]: r7 needs protection
scrwbll19 [4k\]: pay the stone mafia
tornadotry [1k\]: hmm
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;B[qj]C[Fredtingyu [1d?\]: now M4?
]
;W[lp]C[gogonuts [3d\]: doesn't do enough
USGO1 [-\]: so strong!
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: oh yeah ^^
gogonuts [3d\]: hm
backpack1 [3d\]: feels natural
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;B[mp]C[gogonuts [3d\]: i don't see what thickness does for w here
backpack1 [3d\]: aaaaand things are getting mess
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: the one space jump created the miai with M4 and Q8
backpack1 [3d\]: y
LIORisrael [3d\]: r4 is a joseki?
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: i'm not sure 
USGO1 [-\]: Check Hajin Lee 4p's commentary with xhu starting on stream any minute now :)
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: maybe when white doesn't  want to play Q4 
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;W[mo]C[Fredtingyu [1d?\]: yeah 
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;B[lo]
;W[jp]
;B[qr]C[Rodtank [2d\]: r4 first played (in ps.waltheri databse) by svetalana shikshina in 2008!
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: that is not a real reference
LIORisrael [3d\]: and second time here is us open masters 2016
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;W[lq]C[LIORisrael [3d\]: -.-
gogonuts [3d\]: lol
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;B[op]C[jwc [-\]: I played it also last week
LIORisrael [3d\]: you are a legend
jwc [-\]: thx
softlight [2d\]: Hajin Lee got promoted to 4p?
wuhuu [8k\]: yes
softlight [2d\]: a wedding gift :)?
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: lol
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: maybe over teaching baduk abroad
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: one of my pro friend got the same thing
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;W[oo]
;B[ln]C[softlight [2d\]: interesting, maybe she could answer later
gogonuts [3d\]: w under too much pressure himself to bag f4
scrwbll19 [4k\]: w is looking really thin right now
gogonuts [3d\]: prefer b now
USGO1 [-\]: "bag" f4?
qandq [3k?\]: capture
gogonuts [3d\]: "cut off and kill" if you prefer :-)
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: ^^
Tsuke [2d\]: not the easiest stone to bag
Hanarou [1k\]:  
indianayk [-\]: you don't ask pros how they got promoted
]
;W[nl]
;B[ll]C[Herod [-\]: Andy first won the US Open in 2006 - at age 15
globax [3d\]: the best way to master a skill is to teach it
rallytondo [3k\]: but maybe not be a student of some masters as some are not good teachers
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;W[pl]C[USGO1 [-\]: Sounds like the commentary w/ Hajin is starting!  check the youtube or twitch streams :)
melmak: do you have a link?
LIORisrael [3d\]: can i get link
gogonuts [3d\]: all time master at teaching was kitani
gogonuts [3d\]: but only 1/10 as famous as go seigen, because go was a little stronger
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;B[pm]C[Burton [6k\]: will there be pro commentary for this round on this site??
gooooo [-\]: did haylee get promoted for playing games?
USGO3 [-\]: Youtube Stream: https://www.youtube.com/c/usgoweb
wuhuu [8k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Burton [6k\]: will there be pro commentary on this site for this round?
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;W[om]C[USGO1 [-\]: yes, Hajin Lee 4p will comment :)
]
;B[ok]C[Burton [6k\]: thanks
Hanarou [1k\]: ？?
gogonuts [3d\]: yikes, is that peep possible?
Hanarou [1k\]: *0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0
GodofGo [6d\]: why not possible
USGO1 [-\]: I can hear Myungwan now... "black is in attack position"
gogonuts [3d\]: what if w cuts through to the side?
Weishenme [4d\]: R8 very tempting
Weishenme [4d\]: r8 s8 s9 s7 r9 p8 s10 
wweessaaqq: I wonder if Bao Yun can visualize that sequence, though.
gogonuts [3d\]: lol
gogonuts [3d\]: still we puny mortals must be allowed to ask ourselves
Dalan [2d\]: nah, he can play blind go on several simuls but I don't think he could do that!
cekalo [1k\]: n9
cekalo [1k\]: or net
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;W[pk]C[Tsuke [2d\]: q10
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;B[pj]C[GodofGo [6d\]: oh really? ...
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;W[oj]C[GodofGo [6d\]: where else would he play lol
Tsuke [2d\]: no idea, but he took his time
gogonuts [3d\]: very clean variation
GodofGo [6d\]: he was thinking of further sequences not that move
gogonuts [3d\]: he might have also compared to c8
tornadotry [1k\]: thinking well
]
;B[oi]
;W[nj]C[cekalo [1k\]: wat?
cekalo [1k\]: why this
GodofGo [6d\]: what else
qandq [3k?\]: Crazy Stone not happy at all with P11, wanted O9
zxcvbnm [2k\]: Because q16's stone is black's, so black is fine with a wall?
cekalo [1k\]: ask hajin why
gogonuts [3d\]: because w p8 is sente against the side, moving p9 would have been too much
cekalo [1k\]: this move is weak
GodofGo [6d\]: yes i will trust 1k over 1p
cekalo [1k\]: go away
qandq [3k?\]: :)
cekalo [1k\]: you are a fake 6d anyway
GodofGo [6d\]: oh i am hurt :(
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;B[io]C[USGO1 [-\]: keep it civil plz
wweessaaqq: take it outside, boys
USGO1 [-\]: and preferably about the game :P
GodofGo [6d\]: yessir
USGO1 [-\]: ty
profan [5k?\]: seems black taking advantage of k4 is it right?
gooooo [-\]: usgo1, thanks for relaying and commenting!
USGO1 [-\]: Our pleasure!  keep checking usgo.org for all the news and reports from the congress!
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;W[ip]
;B[ho]C[wweessaaqq: black center not looking bad
highhand [6k\]: how strong is Crazy Stone
gogonuts [3d\]: crazy strong
qandq [3k?\]: People argue over how strong it really is, but it's 7d on KGS I believe
gogonuts [3d\]: it has some glitches in fighting with large eyes, so zen seems stronger atm
USGO1 [-\]: Andy shaking his head and tsking here
USGO1 [-\]: not sure if he's happy
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;W[lr]C[Tsuke [2d\]: oh wow, best commentary ever, no joke.
Tsuke [2d\]: rly rly like it
ajventi [14k\]: So no blindfold today?
gogonuts [3d\]: i don't think b helped himself with the q7 ect stuff, otherwise seems fine
Tsuke [2d\]: refering to stephen hu + hajin lee commentary of the game on youtube
USGO1 [-\]: Hajin is doing good work there Tsuke?
qandq [3k?\]: CS much preferred G3 to M2
Tsuke [2d\]: they work very well as a team I think, which makes it so good
qandq [3k?\]: Hajin is a great commentator, very clear
USGO1 [-\]: great to hear!
]
;B[ni]
;W[mj]
;B[mi]C[Lugia [9d\]: is there a live stream?
wuhuu [8k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
USGO1 [-\]: or on twitch, twitch.tv/usgoweb
highhand [6k\]: CS is available for purchase? can analyse existing game position?
gooooo [-\]: yes, it's available on steam
quibble: hmmm i just got here and its looking better for b
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;W[lj]C[gogonuts [3d\]: did w calculate m2 to be sente?
gogonuts [3d\]: doesn't look like sente
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;B[hp]
;W[np]C[GodofGo [6d\]: q4 incoming
gogonuts [3d\]: w better have something here, or the game is gone
USGO1 [-\]: b reached for S3
violon [6k\]: Sur 
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;B[rq]C[gogonuts [3d\]: i missed the simple o4
GodofGo [6d\]: yea just needs sente
quibble: i dont understand why w didnt s2 first
GodofGo [6d\]: now d2 works
gogonuts [3d\]: s2 b s1
GodofGo [6d\]: but that is for later
gogonuts [3d\]: if you play again, b lives
USGO1 [-\]: d2 larger than top?
quibble: i mean w s2 beforeo4
GodofGo [6d\]: prob play top first
gogonuts [3d\]: yes, then b answers s1
koticgood [4k\]: still s1 and gote locally
quibble: okay thank you
GodofGo [6d\]: leave weakness there
gogonuts [3d\]: if then o4 practically same as game
gogonuts [3d\]: o3 is the logical move, but w doesn't want gote :-)
profan [5k?\]: if black plays n2 w will need later h3?
USGO1 [-\]: love it when both players are tsk'ing unhappily
gogonuts [3d\]: immediate answer would be required
USGO1 [-\]: why do they both not like it, i wonder?  Must be even game :)
highhand [6k\]: well if just sente w k5, but after b responds, then what
gogonuts [3d\]: usgo, they are like successful merchants - they always complain too :-)
Lugia [9d\]: r 17?
gogonuts [3d\]: r17 is a good suggestion
gogonuts [3d\]: annoying theat b gets to protect n3 in sente
gogonuts [3d\]: but r17 is very important
GodofGo [6d\]: maybe, b will prob block r16 then keima and come back to n2 
qandq [3k?\]: O3 seems pretty big because it also connects
profan [5k?\]: r17 isnt earlier if black s4 is w alive?
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;W[fq]
;B[gq]
;W[fr]C[gogonuts [3d\]: is lower left completely safe if b gets g2?
GodofGo [6d\]: yea
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;B[bp]
;W[cr]C[gogonuts [3d\]: looks like we will get a demo :-)
tornadotry [1k\]: great game
highhand [6k\]: w f3 move bigger than r17?
GodofGo [6d\]: w not in danger but b prob will reap benefits
Lugia [9d\]: c 15
miao [6d\]: b8 will be sente
USGO1 [-\]: c15 larger than top?
Lugia [9d\]: c 15 then o 17
Lugia [9d\]: make the exchange first
gogonuts [3d\]: b4 not so impressive - c2 finished it
gogonuts [3d\]: i would have thought d2 was somewhat problematic, once b has g2
GodofGo [6d\]: there was nothing in there anyway
GodofGo [6d\]: just slight benefit
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;B[mr]
;W[hr]C[GodofGo [6d\]: and g2 allow o3 which is big
gogonuts [3d\]: true
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;B[iq]C[gogonuts [3d\]: nics ask
GodofGo [6d\]: b played b4 first because if he played n2 first after w connect w could have answered differently in bottom left
qandq [3k?\]: Bao Yun shook his head after J3
quibble: shook his head in disbelief or with amusement
USGO1 [-\]: frustration?
USGO1 [-\]: hard to say
qandq [3k?\]: Just looked like surprise
quibble: boy i just cant see how w should respond
USGO1 [-\]: Lugia: C15 exchange for what?
USGO1 [-\]: what w reply do you expect?
gogonuts [3d\]: w has to let 2 stones go, it looks like
quibble: oh goodness i guess k3 but thats probably wrong somehow
gogonuts [3d\]: that can't have been the plan
Lugia [9d\]: e 16
EdhelDil [3k\]: j3 is yose? c16llarger ?
USGO1 [-\]: thanks :)
qandq [3k?\]: CS thinks J2 K3 K2 L4 then tenuki
gogonuts [3d\]: smart cs
profan [5k?\]: j2? connect  
GodofGo [6d\]: after j2 b prob won't respond
tartratart [5d\]: i would plau just g2
gogonuts [3d\]: j2 is the only move
highhand [6k\]: how much is 6d strength CS cost? run on PC?
gogonuts [3d\]: too much for oops, its gone
GodofGo [6d\]: maybe h3 but b gets to seal off w
Lucky [?\]: what hapened with H3 ?
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;W[hq]
;B[pc]C[USGO1 [-\]: wow
quibble: lucky guess :)
USGO1 [-\]: with h3, andy immediately slides into his seat and bangs down Q17
profan [5k?\]: you stolen wow from my keyboard ^^
backpack1 [3d\]: w has to extend on the upper side
tartratart [5d\]: q17 because black feels behind?
gogonuts [3d\]: b has now completely closed the center
gogonuts [3d\]: at the bottom
backpack1 [3d\]: otherwise b will create a huge moyo 
gogonuts [3d\]: w cannot lose more libs against j3 stone
GodofGo [6d\]: don't know where to extend
profan [5k?\]: seems not counter game for d17
GodofGo [6d\]: maybe test out q11 cut first
AcR [3d\]: is q17 the only way to extend upper right? can i play P17 / O17 instead? it looks a good direction for me too
GodofGo [6d\]: but could be harmful
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;W[jd]C[GodofGo [6d\]: q17 most solid
gogonuts [3d\]: ws choice was between k16 and k17
Lugia [9d\]: q 17 white can play r 15
bkjhb: you mean like r15 r16 q12  ?
]
;B[br]C[Lucky [?\]: C4 ?
USGO1 [-\]: is there something after J2 then b L2?
gogonuts [3d\]: all b gets here is b8 sente, imo
tartratart [5d\]: r16 is not in Lugia reading tree :)
GodofGo [6d\]: i think b would be confident of killing r15 imo but idk
bkjhb: i think r16 is the normal response to r15
Lucky [?\]: no, w has 1 more lib USGO
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;W[dr]
;B[jo]C[quibble: what is the name for b b2 threat is it double sente or another name
miao [6d\]: another name
tartratart [5d\]: i think r13 is correct answer
GodofGo [6d\]: it is not a threat
gogonuts [3d\]: it's called a doomed probe :-)
quibble: okay thank you
]
;W[jq]
;B[de]C[Lucky [?\]: now B8 sente
miao [6d\]: n17?
gogonuts [3d\]: really?
gogonuts [3d\]: not f16?
miao [6d\]: why not
tartratart [5d\]: of course f16
miao [6d\]: nobody likes my move :(
gogonuts [3d\]: lol
profan [5k?\]: b8 tenuki c5?
GodofGo [6d\]: idk top right move possible since it sets up r15
]
;W[ce]C[GodofGo [6d\]: but top left maybe more urgent
]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[df]C[miao [6d\]: idk also
miao [6d\]: just feeling
miao [6d\]: and this feels bad for w
]
;W[fc]C[miao [6d\]: pressure is mouting
miao [6d\]: m16 or m17
seppuku [3d\]: b8 tenuki b5 
miao [6d\]: both ok
LIORisrael [3d\]: m17 auch
TheDuke [?\]: Black sente.  Whee!
tartratart [5d\]: sente to take m17
tartratart [5d\]: not a big freedom
miao [6d\]: i prefer n17 over this variation
miao [6d\]: i guess
backpack1 [3d\]: m17 is a lot of cash
miao [6d\]: not sure if it´s any good though
miao [6d\]: after say f16
LIORisrael [3d\]: m17 seems better for aji later
GodofGo [6d\]:  not sure where w is gonna get enough cash
seppuku [3d\]: m16 better?
Lugia [9d\]: m 17
nuk: Is B ahead?
tartratart [5d\]: very close
GodofGo [6d\]: after m17 b seems to have quite a bit more territory but idk
tartratart [5d\]: black has maybe more potential
profan [5k?\]: i feel sas for j5 wall
miao [6d\]: m16 is an alternative
profan [5k?\]: sad*
tartratart [5d\]: m17 or g15
miao [6d\]: i think m17 might be  better though
LIORisrael [3d\]: ..
GodofGo [6d\]: and centre potential is all b 
tartratart [5d\]: or.....tengen!
GodofGo [6d\]: w not much potential to get more territory
gogonuts [3d\]: m17 can't be too wrong now
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;B[ld]C[miao [6d\]: ha
Weishenme [4d\]: L16
profan [5k?\]: if w m10 is alive centre is few points
Weishenme [4d\]: M
gogonuts [3d\]: but a little wrong :-)
miao [6d\]: miao anticipation :)
nuk: miao is right :-)
Lugia [9d\]: m 17?
tartratart [5d\]: m11 is taste now
Lucky [?\]: M17 is dangerous
LIORisrael [3d\]: m17 for w and he is happy
gogonuts [3d\]: i thought w m17 pretty big now - but maybe b could ounter
Lucky [?\]: M17 L17 L16 M18 N17 K17 no ?
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;W[rl]
;B[ql]C[LIORisrael [3d\]: w wants q11 cut
]
;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[ol]C[GodofGo [6d\]: yup
]
;B[rj]C[LIORisrael [3d\]: wow
gogonuts [3d\]: woah
GodofGo [6d\]: b confident
Weishenme [4d\]: almost forced 
gogonuts [3d\]: its generous tuesday :-)
LIORisrael [3d\]: maybe it was too early for w
nuk: sacrifice then he will get sente
tartratart [5d\]: m11 seems to very big
profan [5k?\]: i wonder if s8 is expendable
nuk: definitely.
LIORisrael [3d\]: now m17 is good
Weishenme [4d\]: S7 cannot be played now
Weishenme [4d\]: too soon
miao [6d\]: m17 is ok
profan [5k?\]: l8?
miao [6d\]: will make g15 100% forcing though
Weishenme [4d\]: and what about M14 ?
miao [6d\]: so will need g14 as a direct follow up
miao [6d\]: or would like to have
USGO1 [-\]: Bao Yun says "ay" under his breath and slaps himself.
USGO1 [-\]: (gently)
USGO1 [-\]: like a facepalm?
nuk: :-)
USGO1 [-\]: ahh you should be watching the stream anyway ;)
miao [6d\]: m14 is a bit doubble edged
tartratart [5d\]: link pls
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;W[lc]C[USGO1 [-\]: youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live
miao [6d\]: hard to benefit
tartratart [5d\]: ty
USGO1 [-\]: or twitch.tv/usgoweb
LIORisrael [3d\]: oh ye
miao [6d\]: might end in a doubble attack
miao [6d\]: m14 l15
]
;B[mc]
;W[kc]C[miao [6d\]: l13
miao [6d\]: hard to say
miao [6d\]: feels a bit wrong though
TheDuke [?\]: Almost want to tenuki here...
Lugia [9d\]: l 13 now?
miao [6d\]: s7 is porpably biggest for w after taking sente here
LIORisrael [3d\]: dont like l13
miao [6d\]: there is a small chance  b will play there now though
]
;B[md]C[backpack1 [3d\]: this looks soooo overconcentrated
miao [6d\]: l13 is not
LIORisrael [3d\]: m13 seems intresting
wade [5d\]: f15?
gogonuts [3d\]: b hoping to mess with the top later
Weishenme [4d\]: f15 
gogonuts [3d\]: but m16 does look better at m17 to me now
buzzman [3k\]: h14
Lugia [9d\]: d 10?
GodofGo [6d\]: it is taken
Weishenme [4d\]: d11 was teh idea perhaps
wade [5d\]: 9d arer allowed to play in a taken place
GodofGo [6d\]: yes i am sorry
GodofGo [6d\]: i forgot the rules
wade [5d\]: lol
]
;W[bh]C[miao [6d\]: wow
miao [6d\]: b can give it
miao [6d\]: s6 is priority
gogonuts [3d\]: remember that b b8 reives the corner though
miao [6d\]: i do
gogonuts [3d\]: so some attraction to this area
miao [6d\]: but b13 seems a bit too much here
miao [6d\]: for this position
gogonuts [3d\]: i think you're right that w s7 made the most sense though
]
;B[dd]C[GodofGo [6d\]: maybe possible because of d9 stone
USGO1 [-\]: b can make enough in the center w/ just C12 right?
]
;W[cc]C[gogonuts [3d\]: smells like b13 to me :-)
miao [6d\]: yes usgo
]
;B[he]C[GodofGo [6d\]: but not much damage done
miao [6d\]: hehe
miao [6d\]: b can omit
gogonuts [3d\]: hm
gogonuts [3d\]: nice
GodofGo [6d\]: yea too small
miao [6d\]: i thought about g15
miao [6d\]: not small
gogonuts [3d\]: not too small
miao [6d\]: just sente
gogonuts [3d\]: but if w protects, then b13
Lucky [?\]: G16
miao [6d\]: still not sure gogo
miao [6d\]: i feel like it might be a bluff
tornadotry [1k\]: hmm what does this move mean..
miao [6d\]: out of reluctance to play c12
]
;W[gd]C[GodofGo [6d\]: i think after b13 not much
Lucky [?\]: hehe :D
Charlus [7k?\]: so he might just go for the center like a crazy person?
Charlus [7k?\]: miao a bluff? in what way?
buzzman [3k\]: k15?
gogonuts [3d\]: hard to get the priorities right now
]
;B[be]C[miao [6d\]: well for sure b reads b13
miao [6d\]: huh
]
;W[dh]C[Jonsoncao [6k\]: lol
gogonuts [3d\]: even greedier than b13 :-)
]
;B[ge]C[GodofGo [6d\]: lol
miao [6d\]: not sure if greedy is the right term
miao [6d\]: but wel
GodofGo [6d\]: just gonna attack the group and form territory
Charlus [7k?\]: well it feels really all in-ish
miao [6d\]: now b has to make a row of decisions
miao [6d\]: after f13
miao [6d\]: his position is a bit thin
gogonuts [3d\]: "all in-ish" is a contradiction in itself
Lugia [9d\]: e 10?
Charlus [7k?\]: haha dont be picky
miao [6d\]: he can plan h16 but there is f15 as a possible counter
GodofGo [6d\]: was this necessary?
miao [6d\]: and even if not  f15 just h15 f16 g17 k15 doesn´t finnish b´s thinness problems
miao [6d\]: after her sepnds one more move it is a connected wall though
miao [6d\]: then the question is how weak the white center is
Lucky [?\]: C10
]
;W[fh]C[miao [6d\]: because a reduction of the center is looming with a group like that
miao [6d\]: and it will be a natural reduction
]
;B[ed]C[miao [6d\]: another way is to go h12
USGO1 [-\]: Anyone see E16 coming?
miao [6d\]: more direct fighting
USGO1 [-\]: anyone?  anyone?  Bueller?
miao [6d\]: more weaknesses for both
miao [6d\]: nice move by black
el [2d\]: look funny
Lucky [?\]: F16
miao [6d\]: really really nice move
Lucky [?\]: xD
wade [5d\]: b16 is sente for w no?
gogonuts [3d\]: the kind of move called "painstaking" in the old go worlds
miao [6d\]: it is senteish
Lucky [?\]: w can B16 no ?
tornadotry [1k\]: perhaps
miao [6d\]: but the aji is too much
gogonuts [3d\]: moves like b g18
miao [6d\]: like e17 e18 j17
]
;W[ec]
;B[hd]C[miao [6d\]: if cut g18
miao [6d\]: yes
]
;W[hc]C[miao [6d\]: connect is more sensible
GodofGo [6d\]: h12
miao [6d\]: but admitting black having achieved something for sure
gogonuts [3d\]: so g16 was really a fine move
]
;B[je]C[miao [6d\]: k15 is the more proper move in this position
miao [6d\]: h12 e10 is a tough local fight
miao [6d\]: but w has sente moves
gogonuts [3d\]: g16 needs at least advanced 6d licence to be allowed :-)
]
;W[ej]
;B[ek]
;W[di]
;B[dl]C[miao [6d\]: if black cannot gain anything local then h12 is worse than k15
]
;W[fj]
;B[ic]C[miao [6d\]: wow
miao [6d\]: hmm
miao [6d\]: ok
]
;W[id]
;B[ie]C[miao [6d\]: just to get both outside moves
USGO1 [-\]: white has 21 minutes remaining
qandq [3k?\]: CS super excited about W F14 now
miao [6d\]: l12 s7 h10 might be a way to end it
miao [6d\]: didn´t count though
Mahler [1k\]: I never saw there is no I on the coordinates, between H and J :)
wweessaaqq: it was an oversight
agony [5k\]: no. It is a convention
gooooo [-\]: is that a black stone in whites bowl?
USGO1 [-\]: Both players seem to be bouncing their knees at the table
Mahler [1k\]: they must be countin
First [1k\]: bao yun the blind go player?
bolbi [-\]: he's not blind
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, he played the blind go match yesterday
bolbi [-\]: he plays blind
tornadotry [1k\]: guy with super brain. he can play blind go. he isn't actually blind
Mahler [1k\]: that's quite different
el [2d\]: w can tenuki?
mke [1k\]: what was the outcome of the blind go game yesterday?
]
;W[kd]
;B[ke]
;W[ib]C[tornadotry [1k\]: he lost I think
]
;B[fd]
;W[gc]C[gooooo [-\]: it looks like a black stone in whites bowl on the stream
Mahler [1k\]: LL12?
mke [1k\]: was it a close game?
gooooo [-\]: (could be bottom of the bowl too)
miao [6d\]: s6 i predict
agony [5k\]: where is the stream?
USGO1 [-\]: w 17 min b 43
Mahler [1k\]: s2
]
;B[bo]
;W[co]C[Mahler [1k\]: s4 i meant
USGO1 [-\]: stream is at youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live or twitch.tv/usgoweb
agony [5k\]: thank you
miao [6d\]: b5 time suji?´
nuk: That right hand side upper area of black is so large you can see both Sun and Moon at the same time.
Mahler [1k\]: Is Moon pretty?
nuk: blue
miao [6d\]: decisions :)
GodofGo [6d\]: b should win this
]
;B[bj]C[miao [6d\]: uff
miao [6d\]: make war not peace guys
miao [6d\]: that´s mister liu for u
Charlus [7k?\]: probably why hes called Big Black wolf, while looking like a lamb
miao [6d\]: haha
Charlus [7k?\]: Big Bad*
miao [6d\]: j10?
GodofGo [6d\]: if b gets sente and gets s6 should be good enough
miao [6d\]: g8 afterwards would be painful
nuk: Was that an Freudian slip, Charlus?
Charlus [7k?\]: haha
Charlus [7k?\]: BBC for the win
el [-\]: b b8 sente?
nuk: you meant BBW ;_)
miao [6d\]: indeed godofgo
Charlus [7k?\]: not this time ^^
USGO1 [-\]: you're both on thin ice
USGO1 [-\]: >:(
miao [6d\]: to me b10 is unnessecary and it is hard to see the direct value of it
nuk: Where did W make the biggest make?
nuk: Sorry USGO1.
miao [6d\]: biggest is hard to say 
LouisXIII [1d\]: cool
LouisXIII [1d\]: Bao Yun is rated as 7d :)
miao [6d\]: the lower right joseki was not good for him
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: until here , there is no big mistake 
miao [6d\]: black got walls all over the place and sente
nuk: R4 was the strangest move.
wade [5d\]: is he 7d aga?
GodofGo [6d\]: 7d china
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: yeah right the sequence on the lower right seems better for black
wade [5d\]: thanks
USGO1 [-\]: this is his first US rated games
miao [6d\]: then c15 was very suspicious of a plan
USGO1 [-\]: err, first US rated tournament
Lugia [9d\]: white seems to be winning
nuk: He never played outside of Cgina until now?
nuk: China*
backpack1 [3d\]: ofc he did, he was playing in europe some years ago
GodofGo [6d\]: he is famous for playing blindfolded go
]
;W[hk]C[nuk: Lugia [9d\]: white seems to be winning <--- seriously?
polubola: was he 2p as hajin said or not?
Lugia [9d\]: has more territory
Lugia [9d\]: left group seems easy to live
LouisXIII [1d\]: Bao Yun shd haf make it to pro
LouisXIII [1d\]: shd be very unlucky for him... not to make it
miao [6d\]: w has like 60+
GodofGo [6d\]: hm close game
quibble: b n11 group says me me me mine mine mine
quibble: how can w get enough
GodofGo [6d\]: b centre not much anymore
GodofGo [6d\]: less than 10 points
miao [6d\]: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: if w gets s7 could put him in good position
USGO1 [-\]: w down to 11 minutes
Lugia [9d\]: b has around 65?
wweessaaqq: L12 still seems important to me
USGO1 [-\]: b at 40
miao [6d\]: yes Lugia
USGO1 [-\]: (minutes)
miao [6d\]: but the wall is hard to calculate
quibble: lets hope w has a plan in mind
miao [6d\]: j15 wall
Lugia [9d\]: w is around 65 too
]
;B[bl]C[Lugia [9d\]: and s 7
]
;W[am]C[quibble: 11 minutes is cutting it fine
Charlus [7k?\]: how do you count the three stones in your counting?
Lugia [9d\]: i didn't
]
;B[gr]
;W[gs]C[Charlus [7k?\]: ok
miao [6d\]: b10 was seriously bad
Charlus [7k?\]: thx
miao [6d\]: ...
miao [6d\]: i think
Lugia [9d\]: j2
miao [6d\]: h9 for black was much more controled
GodofGo [6d\]: is this sente??
USGO1 [-\]: andy looked a bit surprised at A7
EdhelDil [3k\]: are they in byo.yomi?
USGO1 [-\]: kinda gave it a second look
miao [6d\]: yes
Lugia [9d\]: black can j2 right?
GodofGo [6d\]: after b turns w can l1?
miao [6d\]: j2 maybe now
miao [6d\]: oh
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: hajin said it's not bad  B10
miao [6d\]: nice god of go
GodofGo [6d\]: was looking at that just now
miao [6d\]: hm
GodofGo [6d\]: if this is gote w wins
miao [6d\]: maybe hard to prove it is bad
polubola: can someone ask hajin if bao was pro or not. plz?
GodofGo [6d\]: s7 would give w so many points
GodofGo [6d\]: this could be losing move imo
GodofGo [6d\]: if gote
GodofGo [6d\]: if not alr lost
Lugia [9d\]: this is sente
el [-\]: does J2 work?
GodofGo [6d\]: really?
miao [6d\]: l1 is good
Lugia [9d\]: j2 h1
miao [6d\]: shit
miao [6d\]: :)
quibble: i trust the 9d on sente ^_^
miao [6d\]: was rooting for andy
Lugia [9d\]: ^^
miao [6d\]: afteafter j13 w makes points in the center
GodofGo [6d\]: does w even need h1 if b h2 now w can take
miao [6d\]: j12
GodofGo [6d\]: i mean j2
miao [6d\]: cannot be good to force w to do that to my mind
miao [6d\]: while losing moyo on the bottom
Charlus [7k?\]: good, you asked, not me ^^
miao [6d\]: and walls getting weak
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: G2 seems to be a blunder
miao [6d\]: where does hajin comment on this?
GodofGo [6d\]: yes b messed up
GodofGo [6d\]: she said it was a big blunder too
USGO1 [-\]: miao:  On youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live or twitch.tv/usgoweb
]
;B[gk]C[GodofGo [6d\]: hmmm
FUZxxl [6k\]: pfff
GodofGo [6d\]: desperate
FUZxxl [6k\]: I haven't quite understood the need for A7 yet
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: Andy is moving a lot , come back and plays quickly
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: if no A7 Black B5
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: and ko in the corner
miao [6d\]: thx usgo
GodofGo [6d\]: but still not sure how to respond, just  h11?
FUZxxl [6k\]: I see.
Mahler [1k\]: g10
GodofGo [6d\]: idk lol
GodofGo [6d\]: this is hard to answer
USGO1 [-\]: Bao Yun agrees ;)
Charlus [7k?\]: is b planning the cross cut?
USGO1 [-\]: still muttering to himself
quibble: ugh w g10 just screams out to be played
quibble: its solid and sente both
GodofGo [6d\]: the video stream shows a possible way for w
GodofGo [6d\]: just block
Mahler [1k\]: of course
Mahler [1k\]: maybe black just wants to connect
quibble: or maybe w h10
EdhelDil [3k\]: h11?
Charlus [7k?\]: appparently, wouldn't be enough according to 9d counting Mahler
Lugia [9d\]: theres nothing on the bottom
GodofGo [6d\]: b definitely is cutting
]
;W[gj]
;B[hj]C[Weishenme [4d\]: good that white has an eye with O3, it may be useful
GodofGo [6d\]: q6 is eye too
USGO1 [-\]: w is either in byo yomi or has 1 minute left
quibble: ooh nice 9d playing now in egr
USGO1 [-\]: didn't quite catch the ing clock calling it out in chinese :)
Weishenme [4d\]: true Godofgo
Mahler [1k\]: P9 is another eyr
]
;W[hi]
;B[ij]
;W[ii]
;B[ik]
;W[fk]C[GodofGo [6d\]: hmm
GodofGo [6d\]: w wants sente to get s7?
]
;B[hl]C[Weishenme [4d\]: F9 not logical move for me
USGO1 [-\]: w 2 minutes left
]
;W[kh]C[Mahler [1k\]: niceu
]
;B[rm]C[tornadotry [1k\]: 5pts
]
;W[fl]
;B[bg]C[kmlck [-\]: b can still cut
Charlus [7k?\]: does it wmatter right now that he can?
kmlck [-\]: it kinda does after s7
Mahler [1k\]: it would take some points
Charlus [7k?\]: oh yeah
aertan [4k\]: If he cut w creates eye
LouisXIII [1d\]: w got one hidden eye at O3...
el [-\]: what was meaning of g2 ?
]
;W[fm]
;B[gp]C[quibble: g2 apparently was a blunder
kmlck [-\]: yeah i didnt see the one at o3
quibble: from earlier chat
FUZxxl [6k\]: now that's a sneaky eye
kmlck [-\]: what if b q4 first though
kmlck [-\]: guess w will find a way with such rich eye shape
GodofGo [6d\]: close but w should win
quibble: w has eye at o3
]
;W[nq]C[USGO1 [-\]: low volume on clock surprised him
]
;B[nr]C[USGO1 [-\]: w now in byo yomi
el [-\]: J2 H1 K2 L1 ?
kmlck [-\]: w must defend
Weishenme [4d\]: no
]
;W[bi]
;B[en]C[kmlck [-\]: cuz of l1?
Weishenme [4d\]: yes
kmlck [-\]: ok
Mahler [1k\]: m13?
]
;W[ff]C[Weishenme [4d\]: e13 
]
;B[fe]C[GodofGo [6d\]: m13 
aertan [4k\]: B16
]
;W[lg]C[LouisXIII [1d\]: w winning
GodofGo [6d\]: get the huge sentes first
GodofGo [6d\]: next is m18
GodofGo [6d\]: maybe s4 first
]
;B[mf]C[Mahler [1k\]: n13
]
;W[rp]C[Lugia [9d\]: s 4
]
;B[ir]
;W[hs]C[GodofGo [6d\]: w+
kmlck [-\]: b2 group looks so sad
]
;B[jr]C[Lugia [9d\]: l1
]
;W[ks]
;B[ms]C[Charlus [7k?\]: what an interesting little tick there was here
Charlus [7k?\]: trick*
kmlck [-\]: l3
Charlus [7k?\]: i might have missed l1 in a real game
quibble: i never can wrap my mind around moves like L1 :/
Weishenme [4d\]: L2
]
;W[is]C[kmlck [-\]: lol
]
;B[ls]C[GodofGo [6d\]: m1
Mahler [1k\]: nice zente
]
;W[js]
;B[rr]C[GodofGo [6d\]: m18
kmlck [-\]: k1 at l4?
FUZxxl [6k\]: M1 Aji-keshi, no?
Lugia [9d\]: n 13
kmlck [-\]: nvm
]
;W[mg]C[kmlck [-\]: no stone at f1
LouisXIII [1d\]: M1 maybe wasted a ko threat
]
;B[ng]
;W[lf]
;B[le]
;W[nh]
;B[nf]C[Mahler [1k\]: m18 was better?
GodofGo [6d\]: all these are sente
GodofGo [6d\]: so no prob
GodofGo [6d\]: why did b connect tho?
]
;W[lb]
;B[kp]C[kmlck [-\]: for less ko threats?
DonValley [5d\]: tesuji
]
;W[kr]
;B[mb]C[LouisXIII [1d\]: b lose on komi
Weishenme [4d\]: w will get b16 also ?
]
;W[ma]C[kmlck [-\]: does se work on aga rules?
]
;B[na]C[GodofGo [6d\]: no
kmlck [-\]: aw
Mahler [1k\]: buse?
Mahler [1k\]: sorry, I meant: se?
]
;W[la]C[GodofGo [6d\]: w winsss
kmlck [-\]: n12 before b16 no?
LouisXIII [1d\]: SE sucks
Mahler [1k\]: what's that?
Weishenme [4d\]: SE feels not at ease with AGA rules
wweessaaqq: seems w ahead by less than komi
]
;B[nb]C[qandq [3k?\]: CS says B K11 now and is ahead
bolbi [-\]: SE never works
qandq [3k?\]: instead of O18
]
;W[kk]
;B[kl]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: se = score estimator
diemorph [1d\]: SE is perfectly fine ESTIMATOR
kmlck [-\]: bots are crazy strong at endgame
GodofGo [6d\]: good exchange
quibble: ima idiot i cant figure out how w kills if b b1
kmlck [-\]: its a nice tsumego
kmlck [-\]: hint: lack of liberties
]
;W[bd]
;B[mh]C[GodofGo [6d\]: hm why didn't he connect
quibble: ohhh right just w c4
]
;W[jj]C[doogly [5k\]: That is a hint for every tsumego.
kmlck [-\]: why give free very big reverse sente
LouisXIII [1d\]: hint: there is kill in hane
]
;B[jk]C[kmlck [-\]: i dont get b16
]
;W[ig]
;B[gg]C[February17 [2k\]: b16 is huge yose 
gogonuts [3d\]: tight game
kmlck [-\]: not big enough to let w push through p12
]
;W[hm]
;B[im]C[wweessaaqq: i have a feeling this is gonna be a 1/2 point game...
]
;W[fg]
;B[hg]
;W[ae]C[February17 [2k\]: push p12 is gameovermove
]
;B[af]
;W[bf]
;B[aq]C[quibble: why ko
wade [5d\]: a14 is "im behund let metry to get some pts"
GodofGo [6d\]: b has slightly more territory but can't give komi
]
;W[cp]
;B[be]C[wweessaaqq: ok does b fight ko because he thinks he needs to or because he is confident he has more threats?
quibble: is b trying to get w to make a mistake with little time
LouisXIII [1d\]: b ahead by 5-6 pts
LouisXIII [1d\]: so w shd win by small margin
wade [5d\]: 7.5 komi?
kmlck [-\]: aga komi is very big
LouisXIII [1d\]: den b is hopeless
Mahler [1k\]: that's French komi
wweessaaqq: f6?
buzzman [3k\]: b +10?
quibble: w e4
wade [5d\]: f6 better
wweessaaqq: e4 now hurts h7 stone
Charlus [7k?\]: i gotta go, thanks to all the dans who answered my dumb questions ;)
]
;W[gf]
;B[hf]C[aertan [4k\]: Take?
]
;W[bf]
;B[ao]C[kmlck [-\]: 2 stones are 2 big
]
;W[bs]
;B[be]
;W[ep]
;B[el]C[wweessaaqq: well there's e4
]
;W[bf]C[wweessaaqq: :-)
LouisXIII [1d\]: yeah... w+2.5
quibble: ^_^
]
;B[cs]C[GodofGo [6d\]: e4 same as f6 
]
;W[ds]
;B[be]C[Lugia [9d\]: mark lee didn't go this year?
GodofGo [6d\]: b won't play f6 bc w sente protects h7
]
;W[ad]C[indianayk [-\]: a15 was not necessary since it provided an opportunity for b to resist
wweessaaqq: i see
kmlck [-\]: but it was sente point
kmlck [-\]: connecting is sente anyway
]
;B[gm]
;W[fn]C[kmlck [-\]: maybe w could time the atari better
]
;B[al]C[GodofGo [6d\]: w should have used g6 as threat
]
;W[bf]C[Weishenme [4d\]: yes
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: white wins
Mahler [1k\]: g12
Weishenme [4d\]: n9 
TuLy [4k\]: big victory for w :)
Fredtingyu [1d?\]: g12 is too small
GodofGo [6d\]: g12 not threat
Mahler [1k\]: true
GodofGo [6d\]: w safe both sides
quibble: btw before the game ends thanks for transcribing usgo1
USGO1 [-\]: yw, yw!
wweessaaqq: Yun wins! Yun wins!
tornadotry [1k\]: haha
USGO1 [-\]: :P
quibble: lol
USGO1 [-\]: ain't over 'til it's over.
wweessaaqq: agreed
]
;B[ro]C[quibble: its not over until the fat lady drops an anvil on your head and then sings in triumph
]
;W[so]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[mm]C[LouisXIII [1d\]: C13?
]
;W[qo]C[GodofGo [6d\]: good move
]
;B[rn]
;W[gl]C[wweessaaqq: i think if b takes he takes at 13 not c13
GodofGo [6d\]: b was planning to q6
]
;B[gn]
;W[hk]
;B[hn]
;W[ag]
;B[lk]
;W[kj]
;B[jg]
;W[jh]
;B[kg]
;W[kf]
;B[jf]
;W[lh]
;B[mk]
;W[nk]C[USGO1 [-\]: dangit :(
]
;B[gh]C[globax [3d\]: p3
]
;W[gi]C[GodofGo [6d\]: but w perhaps could have answered better with p3
wweessaaqq: Andrew!  better not lose track!
]
;B[nm]
;W[on]
;B[cg]C[USGO1 [-\]: there's video :P
LouisXIII [1d\]: the trick to recording game...
LouisXIII [1d\]: is remember by sight
LouisXIII [1d\]: not move by move
]
;W[sq]
;B[sr]
;W[oq]
;B[eg]
;W[ef]
;B[dg]
;W[eh]
;B[ai]
;W[ah]
;B[aj]C[el [-\]: W+0.5?
]
;W[li]
;B[pr]
;W[pp]
;B[fo]
;W[gk]C[LouisXIII [1d\]: shd be 1.5 or 2.5
Lugia [9d\]: w+3.5
]
;B[ko]C[wweessaaqq: .5 but not sure which way
]
;W[ci]
;B[cj]
;W[kq]
;B[if]
;W[ih]
;B[mn]
;W[eo]
;B[ee]
;W[nn]
;B[ml]
;W[ch]
;B[hh]C[Fredtingyu [1d?\]: 2.5
GodofGo [6d\]: w+2.6
]
;W[pn]C[GodofGo [6d\]: 2.5
]
;B[sl]
;W[qn]C[GodofGo [6d\]: i cloned and used score tool to be sure
USGO1 [-\]: 2.6 is a good trick
USGO1 [-\]: players are counting
quibble: me too i got w wins by 2.5 points from se
GodofGo [6d\]: yea i used a long equation 
GodofGo [6d\]: quadratic formulas and stuff
LouisXIII [1d\]: nice trolling
Lugia [9d\]: komi is 7.5 or 6.5?
LouisXIII [1d\]: 7.5
TuLy [4k\]: GoG lol :D
el [-\]: 7.5
wweessaaqq: anyway what a game
indianayk [-\]: 3.5 or 2.5?
USGO1 [-\]: looks like b 49 w 45
GodofGo [6d\]: andy said he thought bottom was sente
GodofGo [6d\]: g2
Lugia [9d\]: 3.5?
USGO1 [-\]: yea
quibble: wow the game let me change the rules to say that w won by 2.5 points
quibble: probably only is visible on my side though
wweessaaqq: so is it official?
USGO1 [-\]: W+3.5
quibble: oh 3.5
wweessaaqq: thanks
LouisXIII [1d\]: cool
indianayk [-\]: thanks USGO1
LouisXIII [1d\]: SE is not trustable
USGO9 [-\]: thanks usgo1
tornadotry [1k\]: gg
USGO1 [-\]: thanks everyone!
quibble: i changed it to 3.5 :)
USGO1 [-\]: see you thursday!
quibble: geez can anyone else see it in rules
tornadotry [1k\]: unreliable se yup. Thanks to both players for great game.
quibble: great game
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